Anyway, all of this was just to say that I feel bad that Suhr has lost quite a few prominent players considering that they're basically directly responsible for a hugely popular style of superstrat in the current guitar scenes. Same with Ernie Ball. . Endorsements are a business, period. There'll always be one you could have spent more money to get, but it sounds like the Ibanez is the one you've been thinking of most, so go with that I think. They both have roasted maple necks, stainless steel frets, locking tunerswhat's the difference?Pickups: SSV Neck, SSH+ Bridge PickupFace portion was shot with a new camera. Kudos to Fender. I'm not crazy with the whammy though. You can get decent dives and float and remain n really good relative tune, but you have to cut the back side of the nut in the direction the strings flex out in dives to stop binding. That Fender, meanwhile, is just an upgraded, modified Strat. I love mine, and it's inexpensive enough that if you didn't love the pups you could drop 3-400 on replacements and still have less than 1500 in it. As great as the JS is, the Suhr is just on a different level. The two guitars are very different. Mine has SS frets. I am a terrible guitar player so a better guitar will not make me better, but I can feel a difference between a 200 guitar and a 1000 axe, quality of build, pickups, electronics, hardware, etc. -Greg. And I didn't gel with the stock pickups in my Modern, so it has DiMarzios now. AJ All are welcome, from seasoned pros to absolute beginners. I don't care what it is, there will always be more $1000 guitars sold than $3000 to $4000 guitars. I must have mixed it up with some of the Charvels I tried (I tried almost 15 guitars!). The middle pickup felt quieter and there was a slight volume drop when switching into that position 3. before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. Prestige combines high-tech manufacturing techniques with old-world Japanese craftsmanship, in order to achieve true innovation in design and construction. Most Successful Signature Guitar Of All Time. Suhrs are great but Ibanez are equally great in my eyes, just at a better price. I tried to cover "Home" guitar rendition by Vinai T. Both felt like a shreddier improvement. I feel the J.Custom's rounded fret edges and softer neck back (velvetouch, lol) as well as Edge Pro (vs Floyd), on top of the wood binded neck and absolutely 0 neck pocket set it above the Suhr. However, a little time with my trusted luthier/repairman, and $160 later the guitar will have the silkiest playability I can imagine. I love the inlays, some others don't. My first REAL guitar I bought in high school, an Ibanez AS-200 and I've been hooked since. Balancing a neck and middle singlecoil with comparable, much less identical, output should be pretty easy. I dont strongly dislike it as its own pickup but I feel like it doesnt match the middle or neck particularly well. To each his own I suppose. 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Its really the lax labour laws and wages in the countries used that allow the lower retail price. Not bad at all for more modern lead guitar solos. To each his own I suppose. I have a Prestige HSS AZ and a Fender Elite strat. Online boltok, akcik egy helyen az rukeres rsszehasonlt oldalon. I had always steered clear of C-type necks and then the Strat won me over when I actually tried it (supposed to be a modern C, not a vintage C). Or a Suhr Antique Modern. Players get their 'cheap Suhr,' Ibanez gets their business, and folks that may not have been in the market for a Suhr in the first place might now want. The more I play it, the more I like it so I am used to a real Strat and love it to bits. The neck on the AZ is just phenomenal. Now, I am not so sure. Im not 100% on the Suhr, I know theyre Suhr branded pickups and the bridge pickup is the super hot one rated at something like 17k. A friend of mine has warned me it is C-type and very chunky -yada,yada- not for fast-playing (the myth again). Sometimes it's still going to catch and drop out of tune but that's non locking systems. The satin line is built in the same regard that John Suhr uses with the customs and you can expect the same build quality out of the satin line. Suhr all day long. The craftsmanship on those instruments are amazing, the quality control is superb, and the versatility in the pups is like magic. Kinda dig the 5120 - maple board and flip flop paint instant cyberpunk. $ 2,599 .99. I hope you find the guitar thats right for you, regardless. Youre just looking for that mass. Yea but isn't everything you've said also applies to the AZ prestige? Yep, Im a touring (well, you know, until last year) musician and music teacher by profession and can never quite afford the gear I want. Thanks for visiting. But first a note of caution. Ibanez also build great guitars. The Ibanez website mentioned a flat 12" radius - if its actually a 12-16", and if thew stainless fretwork was good enough not to be a concern, then Id be strongly considering that and a pickup swap in your shoes. I cant make out whether youre being sarcastic here. If it were me, Id get a Squier and replace the nut and (if necessary) the pickups. Suhr can never churn out enough guitars for the amount of orders they get, they'll be fine. The series incorporates ideas and suggestions from musicians from around the world as the cornerstones of the Prestige production process. The amazing bit to me is doing the trem swell at the beginning of Satch Boogie. Akcis Catalinbread Effekt pedl r! The middle and bridge SS on the SSS model are different to the HSS pickups, so its not even the same sound. On the less expensive side check our the Charvel DK24 Pro Mods. #3 Ive also had good experiences buying low-end Jay Tursers for friends and family. So I am not sure I would change them in the short run. are also a step up in craftsmanship, features and design for Fender. You are using an out of date browser. With that said, I think Suhr has caused a couple companies, like Ibanez and Fender, to up their game. Having checked out the AZ line, and getting a Kiesel Delos I'd go with the Kiesel 100% of the time. Also my cutoff would be different depending on the category of guitar. The Suhr, by comparison, sounds incredible in most positions, but theres two things I dont like which may be connected. AZS2209H. - Suhr - Chavel - Ibanez - IBANEZ AZ .. Japan (Prestige) 8X,XXX Indo (Premium) 4x,xxx Hi guys, looking for some guitar buying advice. 0 LOL 0 Wow! I will consider an Ultra or other American model in the future (maybe). You must log in or register to reply here. May 9, 2014. "Another 400" is a lot of money though. Custom to go along with my AZ (hss, J.Custom is HH). . It is not dead ringer, but is has some quack. do you feel bad for fender because suhr exists? Talk with your fellow tone freaks on the web's liveliest (and friendliest!) You may have to register Check me out on Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheGuitarPitAnd Instagram is here: https://www.instagram.com/theguitarpit/ The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Today its basically like buying a toaster. Electric Guitar Body: Alder, Bolt-on neck: Maple, Fretboard: Maple, White pearloid dot fretboard inlays, Neck profile: Modern D, Compound Fretboard Radius: 254 - 355.6 mm (10"- 14"), Scale: 648 mm (25.51"), Nut width: 42,8 mm (1.69"), Bone nut, Electric Guitar Body: Alder, S-Tech Wood neck: Maple, Neck profile: Oval C, S-Tech Wood Fretboard: Maple, Nut width: 42 mm, Scale: 648 mm, Jumbo Stainless Steel frets with Prestige fret edge treatment, Pickups: 1 Seymour Duncan Hyperion humbucker Colours are irrelevant but I am looking for an HSS version and maple fretboard. Ibanez AZSuhrTom Anderson 24 Weve tried spraying it although I cant remember with what. This is a forum where guitarists, from novice to experienced, can explore the world of guitar through a variety of media and discussion. If you have guitar related questions, use the "Search" field FIRST, Then ask the community. The AZ series uses Duncans. The Gear Page is the leading online community and marketplace for guitars, amps, pedals, effects and associated gear. settled on Ibanez AZ2402 but now many people are saying if I'm willing to pay that much I might as well go for the Suhr modern satin which is like 400 pounds more. I didn't care for the AZ I tried. Solidbody Electric Guitar with African Mahogany Body, Flamed Maple Top, Roasted Maple Neck and Fingerboard, and 2 Humbucking Pickups - Transparent Aqua Blue. However, AZ Essentials are also equipped with . They just released a model called the Theos which is aimed right at the AZ line /Suhr . If you have something funky and fun, I'll cover shipping.The signal chain was AxeFX2 (Friedman BE, Double Verb) with the Horizon Devices Precision Drive pedal. For the money, grabbing a clean multiradius Fender neck (Id target 2010 or latter, I really do think this is a new Fender golden era were in), any 22-fret, 2-point Fender (or Warmoth, or whatever) body in whatever color you can find that you really like, and then specing out your own pickups, wiring, and bridge, and building it up yourself, will give you a comparable guitar, a little more tuned to your own tastes, for probably a bit less than grabbing a new American Ultra. Kicsi s ers, sszecsukhat a knny . The neck size can also vary depending on model, not all fender necks are thick likewise not all ibanez necks are thin (only the Wizards and similar necks are thin) While ive not played one . Switches, potentiometers and capacitors are usually fine on all but the cheapest of cheap guitars, but high-quality replacements can be bought cheap from places like mouser.com. So, in summary very different guitars! I think this was a dealer specd model and they mismatched the pickup output very hard. The AZs 305mm comes out to about 12", flatter than the standard modern Strat 10", but rounder than the Fenders multi-radius 10-14". Yeah, the EB Cutlass is a good deal, but I was thinking more of something like the Sabre. Some people find the Strats closer position in the way of their picking hand, and the AZ follows the RGs practice of moving it a little further away. For what its worth, I can only speak to how these guitars act in my experience as primarily a fusion and jazz-rock player. IMO great instruments vs the similar suhrs/anderson builds they stack up well at a good price point. And hopefully many happy years ahead (and no fretboard oiling! I had an RG3120 many years ago, it was a fine guitar. Aktv 6 hros basszusgitr hangszed szett, az egyszerre tiszta, meleg s ts hangzs rdekben. Carrying this ethos forward, the AZ line embodies time-tested Ibanez innovation and player-focused features like a smooth, oval neck grip, a well-balanced asymmetrical body shape, and the neck heel allowing for unrivaled playability. Since you just posted an NGD, I assume you just got this guitar and are still in the honeymoon phase. As an Ibanez Prestige owner and a Suhr Modern owner I love both but lean Suhr, b/c the neck shape of the Suhr is a little more filled out and is perfect for my average size for 6' guy hand. The noiseless pickups reduce a lot of the hum, which is fantastic and a great feature. Charvel pro mod DK24Ibanez AZ224F vs Charvel DK24 3StratSuhr\ibanez AZ\ibanez AT100 charvel VS charvel"" Ibanez AZ224F Charvel Dk24IbanezAZ vs Fender Potential re-sale value: Probably Fender still commands a following and will be easier to sell in the second-hand market. Solidbody Electric Guitar with Alder Body, Maple Neck, Rosewood Fingerboard, 1 Humbucking Pickup, 2 Single-coil Pickups, dyna-MIX9 System, and Gotoh Tremolo - Prussian Blue Metallic. The richness of sound, stunning appearance and unrivalled playability of the Ibanez Premium series will open the gate of your reservoir of inspiration. You must log in or register to reply here. You are using an out of date browser. Something to note too is that remember, endorsements are primarily about cash for the, I'm quite sure Mr. Suhr doent give a fluff, Granted, it is always kind of a bummer to see someone's "thing" get copied and mass produced, but it's kind of inevitable. Im being extremely picky here - these are good pickups, but Im trying to critique it as an extremely expensive guitar. Seeing the new Ibanez headless models got me thinking about how in the past couple of years Ibanez and Charvel have managed to grab quite a few "2nd wave shredders" (basically the fusion-inspired shred players that came on the scene in the mid-late 00s and gained prominence in the 10s) who previously either endorsed or frequently played Suhr by coming out with the AZ and DK lines respectively. Radius: Radius of the fingerboard. In fact, Ibanez even managed to pull in two endorsees that were once with Suhr, Tom Quayle and Martin Miller, both of which now have signature AZ models. While the spec, for example, on the Super Wizard HP - "the neck for shredders," states Ibanez - offers a 17mm depth at the first fret, 19mm by the 12th with a nut with of 43mm and a 'board radius of 430mm (16.9"), the AZ's neck is much more conventional measuring between 41.84mm to 42.38mm at the nut, 20.5 to 21mm at the 1st fret and . Az SAGS-50 egy A-alak gitrllvny minden tpus gitrhoz s basszusgitrhoz, ksznheten az univerzlis tartrsznek. Suhr Ibanez AZ Fender Ultra vs StratocasterSuhr ClassicIbanez AZNFender MB 60s The quality of the actual materials used is pretty uniform from factory to factory. Guitar Neck Diagram. Vsrls: Catalinbread Effekt pedl rak, elad Catalinbread Effekt pedlok. I used to have a Japanese S a long while ago and the wizard necks are fast and easy to play. John C said: The Fiore is $2,450; depending on the finish the EB Cutlass will be $50 less or $50 more so it's a wash with that. But for a classic, solid body Strat style guitar with a non-locking bridge? Fender Epiphone Les Paul Gibson Ibanez Dob Zongora Heged . That actually seems to happen more with the Suhr than any other guitar I have owned. Possibly because of the contrast, the neck pickup alone feels very bland and kind of muddy. Still, I could feel the difference just not a thousand miles off. DESCRIPTION. Can we see a pic of your suhr you speak so highly of? Some boutiques just want to be boutiques. Washington. Ibanez offers electric guitars, bass guitars, acoustic guitars, effect and pedals, amps, plus guitar accessories like tuners, straps and picks.Ibanez / Prestige AZ2402 BKF / . That half an inch Scale length difference (25.5" on Suhr, 25" on PRS . I didnt try the real HSS ultra but based on the SSS and AP2 HSS. Id pay attention to this while comparing the two. A forum community dedicated to Ibanez JEM guitar owners and enthusiasts. Some people love it, some people hate it. As for floyd guitars, a lot of it is indeed with the materials (metal alloy) and mass of the bridge itself. I like a TUSQ XL nut, and thats around USD$10. Features: - Alder Body - Roasted Maple Fretboard - Jumbo Stainless Frets - Seymour Duncan Hyperion Pickups - Bone Nut - Gotoh T1802 Tremolo Downside is that stainless frets, while awesome, will be a lot harder and more expensive to have dressed, if you have any high frets to deal with. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The owners cashed out a long time ago when they were purchased, so they're doing fine. Elad ez a remek mini distortion pedl, ami a hres Suhr Riot pedl hangzst idzi. Playability and tones are stellar.